That is one of the most perfect moments in a piece by Chopin I can come across. There is a lifetime's worth of work in these etudes. Obviously, people will have different perspectives based on hand size, proportions, natural strengths and weaknesses, etc. Some of the harder ones took multiple attempts, and I've cycled through many of the easier ones multiple times as well. Answer (1 of 2): If you mean by "playing it", that you've tried the first couple measures, then no, no one would expect it to be difficult. I feel like Liszt can make passagework like this fit way better under your hands (for exampls - the F major section of Un Sospiro. Yes, it requires technique to execute "lightness in touch" and "voicing and phrasing" etc but it requires musical maturity to know when to apply these techniques. The ENTIRE piece is extremely pianistic, even the coda. I was sight reading through it yesterday, and found it not to be that tricky, of course it will require alot of work, but it wasnt very hard to sight read (except for 1 page, can't remember which). The colors brought out in this piece are like nothing Ive seen of that era. Chopin Difficulty Ratings. What does matter, is which one you like best.. Great for motivation After you've decided which piece, prepare a work schedule and stick to it. Post a reply. A pianist who has played a lot of Joplin would probably find 25/9 (and maybe 25/4) on the easier side. Chopin / Compositions / Composition. I would save that piece for last. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. It's really all a matter of what the individual player has experience in. 23; Ballade no. 1 can be considered "easy" in the sense that you encounter new material only a couple of times; that is, many parts are repeated so the amount of material you need to learn is rather insignificant. The ones I don't are linked below.3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0JEuFiqXO81: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taY5oHleS4I2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnWrFWUJWTI4: https://youtu.be/A3Wriv-QEtE Ballade 4 is my favorite musical piece, period. Any advice for learning Ballade 4? Both Ballade 1 and 3 have beautiful melodies, but Ballade 3 is more in brillante style, so I prefer it least. 1 (Aeolian Harp). The shortest of the tudes. I would be interested in knowing this, too. It continues to get more difficult until the Ballade is way too difficult, and it ends smoothly (Shortest Ballade). https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3683.msg32884.html#msg32884, Quote from: SteinwayGuy on March 31, 2005, 05:55:19 AM, Quote from: SteinwayModelD on March 31, 2005, 07:03:49 AM, Quote from: Waldszenen on April 02, 2005, 07:29:43 AM, Quote from: iumonito on April 01, 2005, 05:12:42 AM, Quote from: iumonito on April 03, 2005, 03:44:27 AM, Quote from: Fred Smalls on April 02, 2005, 06:26:40 PM, Quote from: JP on April 03, 2005, 03:27:35 PM, Quote from: SteinwayGuy on April 03, 2005, 09:02:40 PM. - the website for classical pianists, piano teachers, students and piano music enthusiasts. Reply #8 on: April 01, 2005, 05:12:42 AM. 24 Chopin Etudes Difficulty Ranking (Easiest to hardest) 27 related questions found. The 4th is universally regarded as being the most difficult, as to truly master it, requires a great amount of musical maturity, something that is not as important in the more virtuoso works of Chopin's youth such as Ballades 1 and 2. The four-movement structure of each concerto is novel, and Shelley handles the Tasmanian Symphony Orchestra well from the keyboard, an impressive feat given the difficulty of the piano parts. It is a bit similar to ranking my own children though as they are all amazing. Please Pass It On! What are the difficulties of Chopin pieces from easiest to hardest? It is a waste of your time and mine to engage in this banter. The Chopin Ballades are sort of big enough pieces to where you wouldn't learn one just to "be able to play the others." **DISCLAIMER**Rankings like this are subjective and should not be taken too seriously, think of this as more of a guide than an absolutely exact ranking.Leav. These are the hardest pieces ever written for the PIANO. 9 (Butterfly). There is no way 10/6 is the easiest. Users of this site and the piano sheet music library agree to be bound by Piano Street Terms and Conditions. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); It's quite hard to rank them this way. 10 and Op. Ballade in G minor, Op. 4 Ballades 3, 1, 2, 4 4 Scherzos 2, 4, 3, 1 You know this is just subjective - don't argue! As someone who has learned 23 out of the 24 etudes of Op. Reply #13 on: December 17, 2011, 02:33:55 AM. Ia/3 (0' 30") Difficulty 1.5 (9) Mazurkas Mazurka in D major, KK Anh. But yarghhhhh playing LH octave leaps with that RH passagework, just doesn't feel good. WHOA! pianostreet.com - the website for classical pianists, piano teachers, students and piano music enthusiasts. Reply #14 on: December 17, 2011, 06:21:29 PM, Current repertoire: "Come to Jesus" (in whole-notes), Reply #15 on: December 17, 2011, 07:28:40 PM. Is it to use in the college application, competition, public performance or simply to learn? I have found it to be reliable, beyond the Etudes. Currently learning Ballade 2, and it's definitely my second favorite. "I always loved the Ballade," he says as he pours the tea. 3: Probably the most popular. A list from 1 to 8 would also be great (if you have the time). To add to the argument about "technique". Although there are some givens (Rach 3 is "harder" than a Bach 2-part Invention) the vast majority of other questions come down to personal details what else have you played, how did it sound, what recordings/concerts have you listened to, what sort of condition is your technique in. Chopin Difficulty Ratings. New York City. There's also a negative side. No.1 is the one that everyone wants to learn, there's no denying that you will learn alot from it. Brandon_W_T . By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Others who are far more knowledgeable have on this thread rendered a general difficulty opinion, and the consistency of that consensus would incline me to believe the answer to both of your questions is "yes." . Welcome to the Piano World Piano ForumsOver 3 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments. Yes, the Third Ballade is considered to be the least difficult. "It's a piece I went back to many times. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Reply #4 on: December 13, 2011, 01:34:20 AM, Reply #5 on: December 13, 2011, 01:35:46 AM, Reply #6 on: December 13, 2011, 04:09:25 AM, no.1,2 or 3. It was like a mini-soundbite on a website, the piece wasn't even listed. Of the self-contained longish pieces, the ten-minute Polonaise-Fantaisie - a late best Chopin work, published in 1846 - is the perfect musical novella, unique in structure . I actually performed them all - for a very long time it was my life-time goal. - Quora Answer (1 of 8): As another person who answered a similar question to this has said, this is a very subjective question but here are some rankings from Piano Street's forum. The Coda is nasty. And I'm only 1/24th of the way into my disagreements with that list. It is really morbid though, that the piece swings back to the opening motif, and ends in A minor. Pieces by composer, ordered by difficulty. The Four Ballades, composed between 1831 and 1842, are perhaps the most perfect examples of Chopin's instinctive sense of musical shape and tonal organisation. Reply #11 on: April 02, 2005, 06:26:40 PM, Reply #12 on: April 02, 2005, 08:46:29 PM. And if you think I've misplaced any of them, or if you think I'm not appreciating one of them enough, I'd like to hear why. Definitely don't start with the first or fourth ballades. Scherzo 2. And I will maybe want to try one of the other ones or a scherzo, so what do you all think? Chopin's ballades undoubtedly referred in their general concept to the great Romantic poetry, and especially to the ballads of Mickiewicz; they did not, however, possess any substance experienced by the composer or any literary programmes (although some commentators have been inclined to ascribe such programmes to them). Aargh, most people are underrating the difficult of Ballade No. 2: This is so hard to rank as last because I love this piece. Ballades; Ballade no. Works by difficulty Frdric Chopin See also the original overview of these pieces. I like Ballade F minor for complexity and maturity. The final "Introduction and Allegro, Op. Ia/2-3 2. ago I try to always be working on one or two of them in addition to other pieces. I still like one more than the others. Piano accessories and music gift items, digital piano dolly, music theme party goods, and more! Both main themes are extremely memorable and extraordinarily beautiful. What order would you rate in difficulty these pieces of Chopin's, 1 being the highest and 8 the lowest etc..-:Fantasy Impromptu, 1st Ballade in G minor , 2nd Ballade in F major , 3rd Ballade in Ab Major, 4th ballade in F minor, fantasy in f minor, (heroic) polonaise op. [Nor do they have the time to play through them. This opens the door to the quietly melancholy first theme in G minor, rising over an ominous 6/4 heartbeat. Reply #18 on: April 03, 2005, 03:12:22 PM. I tackled four this semester, and it was a struggle. Did anyone else read and reread this post/list and wonder where they went wrong? A pianist who has played a lot of Joplin would probably find 25/9 (and maybe 25/4) on the easier side. This piece has 2 totally contrasting themes, one so calm and intimate, and the second one comes in and rips through the first one. He dedicated it to one of his friends at the time, Baron Nathaniel Stockhausen, ambassador of the Kingdom of Hanover. Ballade number 4 does have the coda which requires alot of power and excellent double note technique. Take the 3rd. Here's my take: As someone who has learned 23 out of the 24 etudes of Op. Steinwayguy, thanks for your comments. Over 100,000 members from around the world. If you have the technique to play Nos. I guess it could, but if you are mature enough to play one, then you should be ok to do any of those works. . By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. 23 was published in 1836. Andantino in D minor, KK Anh. I quit the piano! Since I am an old amateur, I have no idea about audition, competition, performance, etc. They are considered to be some of the most . 1 [deleted] 3 yr. ago [removed] Jannis281206 4 mo. Reply #16 on: December 18, 2011, 04:57:53 AM, Reply #17 on: December 18, 2011, 09:41:46 AM. Included in that set were several pieces by . 4: Another lovely work, this one is probably the most epic, grand, and triumphant of them all being the longest and most technically difficult. 38 . (Hunter Thompson), Perfection itself is imperfection - Vladimir Horowitz, I have always been under the impression that the 3rd Ballade was the easiest. 622 Agree mostly with this, however op 25/12 is incredibly difficult to play with full accuracy, it's very easy to play wrong notes at that tempo, it requires a reasonable amount of stamina also,. Recently, though, I found them on YouTube (performed by Krystian Zimerman), and I was amazed that I had never heard such beautiful pieces. Here is my list (#1 is my favorite, #4 is my least favorite). I am currently working on the g minor ballad and LOVING IT! Critique me as harshly as you can I'm performing in What do you think? here is my list, easiest to hardest: Money does not make happiness, but it can buy you a piano. The Relaunch of Pleyel in France Produced Far Away, Quote from: pytheamateur on December 12, 2011, 10:48:22 AM, Quote from: starstruck5 on December 12, 2011, 06:19:47 PM, https://pianosage.blogspot.com/2011/08/chopin-ballade-no1-in-g-minor-tips.html, Quote from: fftransform on December 14, 2011, 09:01:58 AM, Quote from: scott13 on December 14, 2011, 11:04:31 AM, Quote from: pbryld on December 17, 2011, 07:28:40 PM, Quote from: philb on December 18, 2011, 09:41:46 AM, Quote from: maxy on November 07, 2014, 05:05:43 PM. After listening to the ballades several times, I've ranked them. 1 in G minor, Op. Anyways, Henle lists the first three ballades as an 8/9 difficulty, and the 4th ballade as a 9/9 difficulty, so they should all be pretty similar to some extent. I left it . Fri 11 Aug 2000 12.21 EDT. This is one of Chopin's most beautiful pieces; sing out the two melody lines. 2 in F major, op. G major (1') 2. I suggested instead an "easier" Liszt transcription and she agreed. 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